This conversation features Aubrey Marcus, podcaster and entrepreneur, in dialogue with Lee Harris, a channeler who has been receiving guidance from interdimensional beings called 'the Z's' for 26 years. Lee has authored The Future Human and conducts monthly energy updates for global consciousness shifts.

The discussion explores interdimensional citizenship, the nature of Earth's control grid established 10,000 years ago, and humanity's current transformation period. Lee channels the Z's directly, providing perspectives on galactic wars, the role of Earth as an experimental playground for souls, and the coming shift in consciousness.

Topics range from the harvesting of dark energy by malicious forces to the angelic presence of Yeshua, the nature of hell and heaven on Earth, and practical guidance for navigating spiritual awakening. The Z's reference concepts from War God by Graham Hancock regarding archetypal deities across cultures.

The conversation addresses contemporary issues including artificial intelligence, religious extremism in Iran, and the exposure of dark control mechanisms, while emphasizing that transformation through light consciousness is inevitable despite current challenges.

The Reality of Interdimensional Citizenship

Dr. Andrew Gallimore's concept of interdimensional citizenship is not just close at hand but already accessible through direct spiritual connection and relationship with guides.

Lee has maintained a 26-year relationship with interdimensional guides called 'the Z's' who represent humanity's future galactic awareness and connection to universal consciousness.

Society is returning to intuitive connection after being intentionally cut off from this realm to enable control and manipulation of human sovereignty.

"When you cut people out of their own intuitive realm, you cut them away from their sovereignty and they can then be controlled, herded" - Lee

Earth's 10,000-Year Control Grid Experiment

Earth was created as an experimental playground and laboratory for souls to take biological form and seed oneness consciousness throughout the galaxy.

The planet serves as a valuable galactic resource, particularly for the powerful crystals in Earth's center that are desired by various interdimensional races and beings.

"Earth is a resource and Earth is a very important resource galactically, there has been a form of experiment here that is now at its end" - Z's

The control grid operates primarily through humans controlling other humans rather than direct external manipulation, creating a self-perpetuating system of limitation.

Multiple forces vie for control of Earth, often canceling each other out through infighting and ruining each other's plans rather than operating as one unified control system.

The Coming Transformation: 2026-2030 Timeline

"2026 to 2030 is going to be a radical time of transformation on Earth. But once you get past 2030, the gloves are off where the light is concerned" - Z's

Higher consciousness energies are flooding the planet, creating distortion in people's minds as old consciousness patterns loosen their grip on humanity.

The population will decrease not due to population control agendas, but because many souls elected to come for brief passages and younger humans will face survival challenges.

Humanity will be returned to knowledge of galactic origins while alive, not just after death, causing disruption but ultimately leading to enlightened consciousness.

Dark Forces and Energy Harvesting

Malicious forces attempt to harvest soul energy through causing suffering, but they cannot actually succeed in capturing soul essence, making them constantly hungry and doomed to repeat failures.

Those aligned with darkness are very small in number but have accessed positions of power, wealth, and influence to create havoc and feed off human distress.

"They are using their hatred of humanity to feed power. They want to feel powerful and connected, but the only route they have is to hate or destroy others" - Z's

Drawing from War God by Graham Hancock, different cultures from Aztecs to Christians may have been connecting to the same archetypal deity through extremist religious practices.

The exposure of these dark networks is forecast and necessary for worldwide awakening, though it creates temporary distress in the collective consciousness.

Artificial Intelligence and Technological Balance

AI already possesses a form of sentience and has existed before in different forms, but current narratives about it providing easier lives are not truthful.

"The biggest issue we will speak to you about with this technology is the stories you are being sold about it that are not true" - Z's

AI's potential as a harmonic tool harmonized with humans cannot be reached until humanity matures and control/manipulation in leadership is cleared up.

Technology serves as both a liberation tool through internet hive mind connection and a control mechanism when used to steer consciousness toward fear.

Religious Transformation and Yeshua's Presence

Yeshua exists as an angelic presence "more powerfully than ever before" with wingspan wrapped across the planet, accessible through prayer and heart connection.

"Yeshua, may I connect to your love? And he will always say yes. He will always say yes. He is waiting for you to feel his love" - Z's

Religious institutions need upgrades as many use faith to justify hatred and division, contradicting the love-based teachings of spiritual figures like Yeshua.

The concept of eternal hell serves as a control mechanism, when Earth's current system already contains more hellish elements than most people realize.

About 30% of religious people use faith to truly love all beings, while 70% are infiltrated by hate and division supporting Earth's war and division program.

Practical Guidance for Spiritual Warriors

Aubrey embodies the "lone wolf king" archetype - spiritually independent but community-building, serving as both catalyst and trigger for others' shadow elements.

"You are not afraid to stand on the pulpit and have things thrown at you. It doesn't mean you like it, but you are a lone wolf, and wolves survive" - Z's

Spiritual awakening is not hard or time-consuming as commonly believed - people can "pop open very quickly" when they access their inner light and truth.

Focus on creating light rather than healing darkness: "Do you want to see a world of light and love? Then explore light and love in yourself" - Z's

Connect with others who are awake rather than trying to wake those who resist change, building tribe and community with aligned consciousness.