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Ryan Michler, founder of Order of Man, and Kip Boyle tackle listener questions covering AI usage, divorce recovery, authenticity, and building male brotherhood. The conversation spans from lacrosse tournament updates to deep discussions about stoicism, violence, and taking ownership of life circumstances.
Key topics include the proper interpretation of stoicism as emotional regulation rather than suppression, the dangers of conflating words with violence, and practical strategies for men navigating divorce, career dissatisfaction, and social isolation. The discussion emphasizes authenticity over polish and the importance of male community in personal development.
AI Tools and Content Creation Ethics
Ryan doesn't use AI for social media content creation but leverages it for podcast guest research, fact-checking posts, and generating additional ideas for Friday Field Notes.
Kip uses ChatGPT to improve existing content, like rewriting a keynote bio to be funnier and more engaging, then fine-tunes the AI output.
The authenticity question arises when people assume AI generation - one commenter accused Ryan of using AI because of proper hyphen usage in a post.
Vanderbilt University faced criticism for using AI to generate a public announcement about a campus shooting, even though the content represented their views accurately.
Authenticity Versus Polish in Leadership
Trump's appeal stems from his broken thought-to-word filter - "you know what you're going to get" even if you disagree with the content.
Obama's speaking style felt "stuffy" and "disingenuous" with no conflict or compelling elements, despite being considered a great orator by many.
A mall coworker once said "I don't trust you because you're always happy" - authenticity requires showing vulnerability and bad days to build trust.
Men should express emotions constructively: "Hey kids, I'm having a bad day because of this and that, I might seem off tonight, but tomorrow we're getting back to work."
Stoicism and Emotional Regulation
"There's a lot of people that get this concept of stoicism wrong. That it's the suppression of emotion" - Ryan clarifies stoicism as understanding emotions and formulating constructive responses.
Great orators like those who delivered the Gettysburg Address and I Have a Dream speech knew how to use emotional hooks powerfully to connect with audiences.
Children need to see fathers can be emotional but also regulate emotions properly - modeling healthy emotional processing prevents kids from thinking something's wrong with them when they feel angry.
Divorce Recovery and Self-Improvement
"Make yourself the project" - men love projects, so channel that energy into losing weight, gaining credentials, or mastering new skills during divorce recovery.
"Fire for effect" means going all in on something rather than "fire for ineffect" - half-hearted efforts that feel good but accomplish nothing, like masturbation.
Self-reflection is painful but necessary: "What did I do? What could I have done better? How could I have showed up? How will I show up in the future?"
Ryan's "Divorce Not Death" course covers eight modules including legal team hiring, financial management, co-parenting communication, and re-entering dating.
Violence, Language, and Dangerous Rhetoric
"Words are not violent unless I'm actively calling for violence" - conflating language with violence becomes dangerous for discourse and democracy.
Every genocide can be traced back to turning a group into villains - once unjustly villainized, violence becomes justified in people's minds.
"If Trump is Hitler, does that give you more justification to take him out? Yes, which is why we see political violence" - dangerous rhetoric elevates actual violence.
Good faith discourse requires genuine questions rather than disingenuous gotcha attempts - Ryan can immediately tell the difference after years of experience.
Building Male Brotherhood
"Being used to it is complacency" - comfort with isolation isn't a valid reason to avoid building brotherhood, just like comfort with pornography doesn't make it beneficial.
Four main avenues for building brotherhood: gym/fitness communities, business functions, church functions, and hobby communities - "That's it. I can't think of something that falls outside of that."
"It's simple and it's easy" - find jiu-jitsu academies on your phone, call them, show up Tuesday at seven - people overcomplicate to excuse inaction.
Religious leaders who are significantly overweight lack credibility: "If you really believed that God gave you this incredible body... you have no excuse to be fat."
Extreme Ownership in Career Dissatisfaction
Taking ownership might mean sacrificing - staying in a hated job to pay the mortgage and provide for family is actually extreme ownership, not avoiding it.
"Always improve your position" - take night classes, gain credentials, network constantly, and position yourself for better opportunities while fulfilling current obligations.
"You're the CEO" - treat your employer as a client, demand clarity and resources needed for success rather than becoming a passive passenger waiting to be managed.
Ryan got multiple promotions by doing work beyond his job description and pay grade - "Look for things that you're not getting paid for to do."
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