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Men Are Built: Live From the Men's Forge

This Ask Me Anything session features Ryan Michler (Order of Man founder), Larry Hagner (Dad Edge Alliance), and Dwayne (horsemanship instructor and biblical teacher) answering questions from men at The Forge event. The conversation covers family legacy transformation, marriage dynamics, parenting strategies, and...

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Key Takeaways
  1. 01

    "People do the best they can with what they have" - Larry, emphasizing grace for imperfect family legacies while still choosing to break negative patterns

  2. 02

    "Vulnerability is synonymous with weak" - Dwayne, distinguishing between emotional vulnerability and healthy tenderness in marriage relationships

  3. 03

    Chris Voss's Never Split the Difference introduces tactical empathy: "empathy does not mean agreement" for navigating difficult conversations

  4. 04

    "We are a body, a soul, and a spirit" - Dwayne's Trinity framework for complete masculine development beyond just physical fitness

  5. 05

    "Without that consistency, without that daily connection" marriages deteriorate into separate orbits where couples tell stories about each other

  6. 06

    "If she can't trust you on what you think are the little things, she's not going to come to you with what you think are the big things" - Ryan

  7. 07

    Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters research shows daughters who receive non-sexualized attention from fathers are less likely to engage in premature sexual behavior

  8. 08

    "Start, stop, keep" monthly family analysis: what to stop doing, start doing, and keep doing for continuous improvement

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This Ask Me Anything session features Ryan Michler (Order of Man founder), Larry Hagner (Dad Edge Alliance), and Dwayne (horsemanship instructor and biblical teacher) answering questions from men at The Forge event. The conversation covers family legacy transformation, marriage dynamics, parenting strategies, and personal development.

Key topics include breaking generational patterns while honoring family history, the difference between vulnerability and tenderness in relationships, raising daughters as fathers, managing reactive parenting, and maintaining marriage connection amid parenting responsibilities. The speakers draw from personal experiences of divorce, difficult childhoods, and marriage recovery.

The discussion incorporates insights from Never Split the Difference on tactical empathy, Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters on father-daughter relationships, and Outlive on relationship maintenance, emphasizing practical systems for family leadership and personal growth.

Transforming Family Legacy While Honoring the Past

Ryan shares missing his father's death by 30 minutes and finding grace: "He did the best he could with what he had" while acknowledging the need to change family patterns.

"Get commitment versus compliance" - involve wife and kids in creating family values and code rather than imposing change unilaterally.

Larry emphasizes forgiveness as self-liberation: "Not forgiving someone is like drinking poison and hope that they feel it" - forgiveness benefits the forgiver most.

Dwayne advises protecting children from unnecessary family trauma: don't burden young kids with ugly family history they don't need to carry.

The Trinity of Masculine Development

"God said, let us make man in our image" - Dwayne explains humans as Trinity: body, soul, and spirit, with most men only developing one-third of themselves.

King David exemplified complete masculine development: "great warrior" (body), "poet" who wrote psalms (soul), and "man after God's own heart" (spirit).

Modern men focus exclusively on fitness, or art/fashion, or spirituality, becoming "only a third of the man God intended them to be."

Larry recommends 14-year-old Brayden add soul development: "read a book that you wouldn't otherwise read" and explore art or music to become a Renaissance man.

Marriage Communication and Emotional Leadership

"Vulnerable is synonymous with weak" - Dwayne distinguishes between destructive emotional vulnerability and healthy tenderness that doesn't undermine masculine strength.

Ryan's castle analogy: report problems with solutions, not just emotional dumping - "I've got the blacksmiths on it, we're going to fortify that wall."

Never Split the Difference concept of tactical empathy: "empathy does not mean agreement" - understand your wife's perspective without necessarily agreeing.

"If she can't trust you on what you think are the little things, she's not going to come to you with what you think are the big things" - take small concerns seriously.

Raising Daughters as Fathers

Dwayne's regret: "I raised the boys and told my wife the girls are yours" created a "plexiglass wall" with his grown daughters that persists today.

"If your daughter does not get the love and affirmation from you that she needs, she'll get it from somebody else" - fathers must engage actively.

Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters research shows father attention without sexualization teaches daughters they can receive male attention respectfully, reducing risky behavior.

"Embrace the weirdness" - daughters are "freaky weird" but "magic," requiring fathers to enter their world rather than expecting them to conform to masculine preferences.

Systematic Parenting and Consistency

Ryan's sales call system applied to habits: 10 daily checkboxes with "I didn't go home until those two or three calls were made" - create non-negotiable tracking systems.

Larry's parenting revelation: kids didn't know their specific jobs, timing, or "what does good actually look like" - be extremely specific rather than general commands.

"Emotion has no place in the equation" - Dwayne on chore enforcement, treating it as "simple justice and teaching and learning and growth" without punitive emotion.

Monthly "start, stop, keep" family analysis: systematically evaluate what to stop doing, start doing, and keep doing for continuous family improvement.

Marriage as Foundation and Daily Connection

"My wife and I are married first and we're parents second" - Larry's foundation principle with non-negotiable Friday dates despite business pressures.

Four relationship levels: individuals, partnership (logistics), friendship, and physical intimacy - "sex to us is extremely important, it's a non-negotiable."

Outlive analogy: "resentment is a lot like the polyp that goes undetected" - not every polyp becomes cancer, but every cancer starts as a polyp.

"The reps in a marriage is really no different than the reps in the gym" - daily connection prevents couples from spinning in separate orbits and creating false narratives.

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