Nicole Shanahan interviews Dr. Deb Conrad, a physician assistant who was fired from Rochester Regional Health in October 2021 for reporting COVID vaccine adverse events to VAERS. Conrad had won a Physician's Award just months before her termination and was nominated to sit on New York State's Board for Professional Misconduct.

Conrad's case represents the first False Claims Act lawsuit of its kind, arguing that hospitals receiving federal funds during the pandemic were required to report serious adverse events as a condition of payment. Her lawsuit has survived two motions to dismiss and could set precedent for accountability in vaccine injury reporting.

The conversation explores how medical professionals were systematically discouraged from reporting adverse events, the dysfunction of the VAERS system, and the broader implications for medical freedom. Conrad filed approximately 180 VAERS reports before being terminated, witnessing patterns of injuries including strokes, heart attacks, and unusual conditions like type 1 diabetes in elderly patients.

The Systematic Suppression of Adverse Event Reporting

Conrad discovered VAERS in January 2021 after seeing patients with serious reactions who said 'the only thing I did different is I took one of those COVID vaccines' - yet received no training on the reporting system despite graduating PA school in 2003.

The VAERS system is 'purposely designed so that we don't give them the information and we just give up' - taking about an hour per report with frequent timeouts that delete entered data.

After Conrad volunteered to be the reporting liaison and educator for her hospital system, leadership conducted a 'silent audit' of her reports and restricted her to only patients under her direct care as punishment.

When Conrad contacted the FDA, CDC, and New York State Department of Health about the suppression, 'nobody wanted to talk to me' - forcing her to secure legal representation from Siri and Gilded Law Firm.

Unprecedented Vaccine Injuries and Medical Gaslighting

Conrad witnessed 'ambulances parked in front of our pharmacies, picking up people who were passing out from the COVID vaccine' and 'people coming into our emergency room right from the vaccination center' - something never seen in her career.

One patient developed type 1 diabetes in her late 60s after vaccination - 'unheard of' and 'probably one of the first cases in history' - yet was denied compensation despite ICU physicians agreeing it seemed vaccine-related.

Medical professionals began gaslighting patients: 'when it comes to vaccines, we gaslight them' unlike with drug reactions where 'if somebody comes in and they take a drug and they say, oh, this drug is causing me to have muscle pain... we take them off the drug.'

Conrad estimates the true adverse event rate from early emergency use vaccines affected 'nearly every patient that came in after having received a COVID vaccine' with numbers requiring multiplication 'by tenfold maybe even more.'

The Legal Framework: False Claims Act Under Emergency Use

Under emergency use authorization, VAERS reporting was 'a material condition of payment' with hospitals receiving '$40 or $44' per vaccine from taxpayers - creating unique legal standing for False Claims Act suits.

The reporting requirement was 'irregardless of causality' - Conrad's job was 'just to report the information to the individuals whose responsibility it is to find those signals,' not determine causation.

Once vaccines became approved, 'reporting to VAERS is now optional' - making this lawsuit specific to 'the emergency use experiment we were all under' and creating a unique legal window.

Conrad's lawsuit 'is the first one in history under this theory' and has 'survived two motions to dismiss' with discovery proceeding and updates expected around August 12-14th.

Retaliation and the Broader Medical System Crisis

On October 6, 2021, Conrad was 'surrounded at one o'clock in the afternoon, the middle of my shift by HR representatives' and fired immediately after going public on Del Bigtree's show and with The New York Times.

Unlike other employees with religious exemptions who were fired November 22nd, Conrad 'was the only one fired that day and the only one walked out halfway in my shift' - clearly targeted for whistleblowing.

The suppression has created systemic fear: 'no one, not one person' has stepped up to continue adverse event reporting after Conrad's firing, sending a clear message to other healthcare workers.

'People are hemorrhaging out of the medical system' due to loss of trust, with 'long wait lines for specialists and everyone's burnt out' as the broken system drives away healthcare workers.

Resources Mentioned

Deception The Great COVID Cover-Up

Mentioned by Skyhorse Publishing as revealing the truth behind COVID-related headlines and cover-ups

The Real Anthony Fauci

Mentioned by Skyhorse Publishing as exposing power dynamics and corruption in public health institutions