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What If China Broke Apart?

Cody from AlternateHistoryHub explores a counterfactual scenario where China permanently fragments in the 1860s, breaking its millennia-long cycle of collapse and reunification. Unlike Rome or the Islamic Caliphate, China consistently reformed as a unified state throughout history, making permanent fragmentation seem...

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Key Takeaways
  1. 01

    China's 2,000-year cycle of collapse and reunification was unique globally - unlike Rome or the Caliphate, it always pulled itself back together

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    The Qing Dynasty oversaw China's population explosion from 150 to 300 million, creating unprecedented wealth and power in pre-industrial times

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    Dowager Empress Cixi gained power through a coup in the 1860s, racing ahead of the funeral procession to build alliances in Beijing

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    By the mid-19th century, China had roughly 10 million opium addicts, draining wealth and tanking productivity across the empire

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    Russia gained 231,000 square miles from China during the Opium Wars without sending a single soldier - only diplomats

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    The scenario proposes China fracturing permanently in the 1860s if Cixi's coup had failed, leading to decades of warlord states

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    European powers would have carved China into spheres of influence, with Britain taking Guangdong and France controlling Taiwan

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    A fragmented China could have resulted in dozens of modernized nationalist mini-states by the 20th century, each the size of England

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Cody from AlternateHistoryHub explores a counterfactual scenario where China permanently fragments in the 1860s, breaking its millennia-long cycle of collapse and reunification. Unlike Rome or the Islamic Caliphate, China consistently reformed as a unified state throughout history, making permanent fragmentation seem nearly impossible.

The video focuses on the Century of Humiliation period, specifically the succession crisis following the Second Opium War. Dowager Empress Cixi's coup in 1861 becomes the point of divergence - what if her gambit to seize power had failed, triggering civil war instead of consolidation?

The scenario examines how competing claims to the Mandate of Heaven, combined with ongoing rebellions like the Taiping and Dungan revolts, could have shattered China into ethnic and regional fragments. European powers would exploit this chaos through the Great Game, backing different factions while carving out spheres of influence along China's profitable coastline.

China's Historical Pattern of Unity and Collapse

For thousands of years, China maintained a unique pattern of collapse and reunification that no other civilization matched - "Han falls, Jin reunites. Jin falls, Sui reunites" - Cody

The Qing Dynasty under the Manchus oversaw China's population explosion from roughly 150 million to 300 million people, creating unprecedented wealth in the pre-industrial world

By the 19th century, the Qing had become "a festering mess of corruption, rot, and complacency" with politics determined by "shut doors, kowtows, and bureaucrats who pocketed everything" - Cody

The Century of Humiliation and Opium Crisis

Britain's demand for tea and porcelain led to the opium trade when China wanted nothing else from European "barbarians" except silver

By the mid-19th century, China had roughly 10 million opium addicts, with "peasants selling livestock and grain for a fix, pulling wealth out of the economy and tanking productivity" - Cody

After two Opium Wars and the Taiping Rebellion, 20-30 million Chinese were dead, leaving the Qing barely surviving into the Century of Humiliation

Dowager Empress Cixi "was evil and vindictive" and "fought off any attempts at reform" for 47 years, becoming "single-handedly responsible for decades of revolution and civil war" - Cody

The Failed Coup Scenario of 1861

Cixi gained power by racing ahead of her husband's funeral procession to build alliances in Beijing while eight regents slowly traveled with the emperor's body

The point of divergence: if one regent had alerted the others, the funeral procession could have diverted north to Manchuria, creating two competing courts and claims to the Mandate of Heaven

With the Taiping Rebellion ongoing and generals like Zeng Guofan tied up in warfare, Cixi would be "largely on her own" during the succession crisis - Cody

Multiple simultaneous rebellions stretched across thousands of miles: the Nian rebels controlling the Grand Canal, the Dungan Revolt in the northwest, and Yakub Beg's independent Muslim state in Kashgaria

Foreign Powers and the Great Game in China

Russia gained 231,000 square miles from China during the Opium Wars "without sending a single soldier" - only diplomats under the guise of arbitration - Cody

Russia's expansion pattern was consistent: "1841-42, two separate diplomats sent to Bukhara and Khiva. 1858, trade and navigation rights negotiated with both. 1868, complete subjugation" - Cody

In the fragmentation scenario, Russia would send 10,000 Crimean War veterans with "guns, artillery, and engineers" to back the Manchurian regents against Cixi

Britain and France would shift from supporting a unified Qing to backing their own coastal puppets, with Britain claiming Guangdong and France taking Taiwan

Ethnic Fragmentation and Nationalist Movements

The Han Chinese, despite being the predominant group, had subgroups like the Hakka and Cantonese who "often clashed" and had different dialects and cultures - Cody

Other ethnic groups included the Zhuang who "spoke a non-Sinitic Thai language," the Uyghurs as "a Turkic group from the far west," and the ruling Manchus

European powers would "destroy the idea of the Han as a truly unified group" by promoting separate nationalisms among Hakka, Cantonese, and Northern Han populations

"One full generation grows up in a Chinese world without rotating bureaucrats, without the heavenly emperor myth" raised on "warped local-flavored nationalism" - Cody

Long-term Consequences of Permanent Fragmentation

By the 1870s, European attention would shift to Bismarck's wars and the Franco-Prussian conflict, leaving China's fragments to develop independently for decades

The result could be "dozens of states, each with 70 years of independent history baked in" including "a Kashgarian Muslim entity" and "a fully modernized Cantonese powerhouse the exact same size and population of England" - Cody

Some fragments might undergo "Meiji-style modernization movements" driven by competition with neighboring Chinese states rather than foreign powers

By the 20th century, a fragmented China would be "kind of open for the taking if you were Japan," fundamentally altering East Asian geopolitics - Cody

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