This Five to Four podcast episode features hosts Peter and Rhiannon discussing President Trump's executive order ending birthright citizenship. Leon from Prologue Projects introduces this subscriber-only episode focusing on the 14th Amendment challenge.

The conversation covers Trump's first-day executive action, the immediate legal challenges from the ACLU and states, and the Supreme Court oral arguments heard on April 1st. Despite their typical criticism of the Court, the hosts express confidence in the likely outcome of this case.

The episode also includes Rhiannon's personal story about encountering venomous coral snakes at her Austin home and the bureaucratic challenges of getting help from city animal control services.

Trump's Birthright Citizenship Executive Order Challenge

President Trump signed an executive order on his first day in office to end birthright citizenship, directly challenging the 14th Amendment and over a century of established jurisprudence.

The ACLU and several other groups and states immediately challenged the executive order in court, setting up a major constitutional battle.

The Supreme Court heard oral arguments in the case on April 1st, with the hosts feeling confident about the legal outcome despite their usual criticism of the Court.

Austin Animal Control Bureaucracy Fails Snake Emergency

Rhiannon discovered a venomous coral snake at her house using the childhood mnemonic: 'Red touches yellow kills a fellow, red touches black you're okay Jack' - Rhiannon

Austin animal control refused to help with the venomous snake, stating 'we don't deal with wild animals' and only handle domestic pets - Animal Control

The snake encounter lasted two days (Sunday and Monday) and left Rhiannon with elevated cortisol and adrenaline levels for 48 hours afterward.

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