Dr. Julia Mossbridge joins Joe Rogan to discuss her groundbreaking research into human consciousness, psychic abilities, and quantum mechanics. Mossbridge, a cognitive neuroscientist with degrees from UCSF and Northwestern, has spent decades studying precognition, telepathy, and exceptional human performance using rigorous scientific methods.

The conversation explores Mossbridge's work with non-speaking autistic children who demonstrate remarkable telepathic abilities, her quantum physics experiments revealing retrocausality in photon behavior, and her personal experiences with precognitive dreams dating back to childhood. She discusses how How the Hippies Saved Physics influenced her understanding of consciousness-physics connections.

Mossbridge shares disturbing revelations about her childhood participation in mysterious gifted programs that involved memory-erasing drinks and surveillance, detailed in her book Have a Nice Disclosure. The discussion ranges from quantum computing's potential flaws to the nature of creativity, with Rogan referencing The War of Art by Steven Pressfield on the muse concept.

The episode examines whether psychic abilities are emerging phenomena or atrophied capacities suppressed by language development, touching on Diana Pasulka's research in American Cosmic regarding UFO consciousness connections and the possibility that extraterrestrial encounters represent future human evolution through retrocausality.

Scientific Study of Psychic Phenomena and Gender Differences

Mossbridge's research reveals significant gender differences in precognitive abilities: 'Before men got their first trial correct... their skin conductance would go crazy, like they just won the lottery' while women showed opposite patterns.

She studied 26 experiments over 40 years examining physiological changes that predict random future events, finding men anticipate winning while women remain physiologically neutral regardless of outcome.

The gender difference may be cultural rather than biological: 'I kind of think it's cultural... gambling addicts are twice as likely, or maybe three times as likely, to be men as women.'

Non-Speaking Autistic Children's Telepathic Abilities

Multiple non-speaking children independently describe meeting 'psychically on the hill' without being taught this concept, suggesting shared telepathic experiences beyond individual imagination.

In controlled experiments, one student accurately described a video as 'a beautiful sky' showing northern lights and treetops without seeing multiple choice options or receiving any sensory input.

Students demonstrate 'telepathy trains' where one child suggests slamming a beach ball before trials, then the next participant independently mentions the same technique: 'It would be good to try the beach ball slam.'

One student accurately spelled '3-E-Y-E-Atlas' phonetically when Mossbridge was thinking about the comet, despite the communication partner having no knowledge of astronomy.

Quantum Physics Experiments Revealing Retrocausality

Mossbridge's double-slit experiments show photons can predict future experimental conditions: 'You can determine what the choice is going to be based on the pattern' in the first 30 seconds.

A UC Berkeley physicist replicated her results over a year, confirming that photon behavior changes based on future experimental duration, suggesting time operates non-linearly at quantum levels.

She developed an equation relating 'the amount of future time after the decision to the detection pattern before the decision,' providing mathematical framework for retrocausality.

Current quantum computing may be fundamentally flawed: 'A leaf is using essentially quantum computing to do photosynthesis... without a lot of expense' while human technology requires super-cooling systems.

Brain Mechanisms Suppressing Psychic Abilities

Neurologist Morris Freeman found stroke patients with left frontal orbital lesions could move computer cursors with intention alone at statistically significant rates.

Transcranial magnetic stimulation suppressing the same brain area allows normal people to demonstrate psychokinetic abilities, suggesting these capacities are naturally present but inhibited.

Freeman's explanation: 'The front left orbital frontal area... inhibits the right frontal area' and psychic abilities are 'dominated by' the right hemisphere.

Language development may suppress telepathic abilities: 'If you develop language, you are more aware of what you're thinking... but you also dampen down the sort of instant knowledge of how people around you are feeling.'

Childhood Experiences in Mysterious Gifted Programs

Mossbridge experienced consistent memory gaps during weekly counseling sessions in the SOAR program: 'I remember walking down the hallway... opening the door... and then I black out like every time.'

Students were given 'a pink drink that was chalky' with unknown contents, and many report similar amnesic periods during these programs across different locations.

In her support group for program participants, 'who here had parents who worked for either the public school system or federal government? And everyone raised their hand.'

The original SOAR program in Aiken, South Carolina was called 'Students on Active Research' and located near the Savannah River nuclear facility that processed plutonium.

Consciousness, Creativity, and the Nature of Ideas

Rogan describes his internal voice as 'like a general' that provides constant self-correction: 'My inner self-correcting voice is always correct... it's like a guardian angel in your brain.'

Both discuss how creative ideas emerge from unknown sources, with Rogan noting: 'Every great thought that I've ever had, every great joke that I've ever written, all that stuff just came out of space.'

The War of Art by Steven Pressfield treats creativity as summoning a real deity: 'treating it as if it's like a real deity that you are summoning... if you do that, it will be real.'

Marshall McLuhan's concept that 'Human beings are the sex organs of the machine world' suggests ideas use humans to manifest in physical reality.

UFOs, Time Travel, and Future Human Evolution

Mossbridge's book Have a Nice Disclosure focuses on inner disclosure rather than waiting for authorities: 'disclosure... is really about learning what matters to you and disclosing all your own weird shit to yourself.'

The retrocausality hypothesis suggests UFO encounters might involve future humans: if you 'extrapolated from what we understand about evolution... that's what I think we're going to look like.'

UFO artifacts appear as 'little acupuncture points... in the history of humanity' that might provide technological advancement at crucial moments.

American Cosmic by Diana Pasulka explores both physical artifacts and consciousness aspects of UFO phenomena, supporting the dual nature of these experiences.