This episode of Lightspeed Podcast features a rare five-person roundtable with host Danny alongside Carlos and Sam from the research team, and Joe and Toma from the advisory team — the full Lightspeed analyst working group.
The conversation opens with a look at surging IPO activity, including SpaceX's recent listing and anticipated offerings from OpenAI and Anthropic, before pivoting to how crypto platforms are responding with tokenized equities, on-chain IPO infrastructure, and pre-IPO perps. The panel examines Backpack's one-for-one fungible SpaceX shares on Solana as a landmark development, comparing it to Hyperliquid's perp volumes and highlighting liquidity fragmentation across five competing SpaceX token variants.
The discussion then broadens into the future of tokens versus equity, governance design, the Jito JTX frontend thesis, and whether tokens and equities will ultimately converge into a single programmable instrument — with Polymarket World Cup volumes and prediction market seasonality rounding out the opening segment.
Polymarket Dominates World Cup as Prediction Markets Rotate Seasonally
Polymarket has seen a significant uptick in World Cup volumes, attributed to its more international user base compared to Kalshi, which remains more US-centric and dominant in sports like basketball and baseball.
Prediction markets now function as de facto sports betting apps, with volumes rotating seasonally — NBA Finals wrapping up, World Cup picking up — in a continuous loop across sports calendars.
Overall trading volumes across prediction market platforms have continued to grind upward, though the dominant use case has shifted toward sports gambling rather than the political and geopolitical categories DeFi purists had anticipated.
Backpack's Fungible SpaceX Shares Redefine Tokenized Equity Standards
Backpack partnered with Daylight on Solana to offer one-for-one fungible tokenized SpaceX shares post-IPO, allowing KYC'd users to on-ramp brokerage shares on-chain and off-ramp them back — a first in meaningful crypto-to-equity fungibility.
SpaceX tokenized spot volume on Backpack reached approximately $15M on day one, $7M on day two, and $13M on day three — notable but dwarfed by Hyperliquid's SpaceX perp market, which reportedly exceeded $1B in volume on IPO day.
The analogy drawn internally at Backpack is that their approach mirrors what Circle and Tether did with stablecoins — pushing innovation ahead of regulatory frameworks and waiting for regulation to catch up, supported by key regulatory hires including Ken Son and Mark Wedgen.
Backpack has also indicated a future IPO and hinted that BP token stakers may receive equity allocations, drawing comparisons to PumpKade's ACE round mechanism where tokens converted one-time into equity.
Five SpaceX Token Variants on Solana Expose Fragmentation Risk
At least five distinct SpaceX token variants exist on Solana simultaneously: Backpack Securities, xStocks SpaceX, Ondo tokenized SpaceX, PreStocks SpaceX, and an unidentified TSPX — creating significant liquidity fragmentation.
Backpack Securities recorded approximately $7M in tokenized volume in a recent 24-hour window.
PreStocks SpaceX is now trading at a discount due to a 6-month lockup on underlying SPV shares, plus fees paid to the SPV for pre-IPO access.
The Solana Foundation's tokens.xyz product, though controversial at launch, is seen as a useful standardization layer to reduce friction for users navigating multiple variants of the same underlying equity.
Prop AMMs are unlikely to quote long-tail tokenized equities until volume thresholds justify infrastructure investment; passive AMMs like Orca, Radium, and Meteora are better positioned for the long tail, mirroring their dominance during meme coin activity.
Tokens vs. Equity: Convergence, Not Competition
"It's not a matter of we're going to see less tokens and more equity, but rather they will both converge at some point. The token is simply a better rail or a better instrument to issue the equity — it's programmable, trading 24/7, more transparent, global instead of per-jurisdiction." - Carlos
The panel agreed the ideal end state in 10–20 years is that equities and tokens become essentially the same instrument, with a carve-out for digital commodities like Bitcoin and L1 tokens that the current regulatory environment may formalize.
Tokens retain distinct value today as bootstrapping mechanisms — enabling global community access, early user acquisition, and growth alignment before a company would traditionally go public, as illustrated by Abitchi's reported ~10x user growth following its MetaDAO ICO.
The dual token-plus-equity structure has historically resulted in the token being zeroed — through acquisitions or team acquihires — making PumpKade's ACE conversion round one of the first examples of a cleaner resolution favoring token holders.
On-Chain Governance Trending Away from Token Holder Voting Toward Equity-Like Structures
A broad shift is underway where protocols are increasingly willing to have core teams make key decisions rather than distributing every governance vote to token holders — a move driven partly by reduced regulatory pressure from the SEC.
"Having all token holders decide on small changes to inflation rates, whether a validator team should be on or off-boarded — you're getting people outside their area of expertise to vote on something, and in practice it hasn't made much sense." - Danny
The panel noted that decentralized governance still makes sense for specific network types — Bitcoin and DePIN networks cited as examples — but the gray zone lies in the handoff from a core development team to a sufficiently distributed operator and user base.
Jito's JTX Frontend Pivot: Moon Math Points to 10x Revenue Potential
Jito is building JTX, framed as the first institutional-grade trading frontend on Solana, featuring professional order types including resting limits, bracket orders, one-cancels-the-other, and TWAPs — targeting the influx of institutional players expected under the Clarity Act.
JTO token was up approximately 50% on the day of recording, reflecting roughly a 3x move over the prior month, as markets price in Jito's transition away from block building — where Jito tips have been trending down as Solana's microstructure shifts toward priority fees.
Sam's revenue scenario: Solana DEX volumes triple from ~$50B to ~$150B monthly, JTX captures 20% share at 2 basis points with the router taking 20%, yielding ~$50–60M annualized revenue versus the current ~$5M run rate — compressing the valuation multiple from ~150x toward under 10x.
Jito's infrastructure expertise — transaction inclusion, the Maker Priority plugin — is seen as a durable competitive edge for providing best-in-class execution on a professional trading interface, with the block-building decline described as a natural microstructure evolution rather than a failure.
Solana Foundation Leans Into Asset Trading With Campaigns and Leaderboards
Vibhu tweeted the launch of Frontier Traders, a Solana Foundation-backed frontend running trading campaigns including a SpaceX leaderboard with a $25K prize pool — signaling a strategic shift from emphasizing raw throughput to actively driving on-chain asset trading.
The Foundation is working with Sunrise to increase bridged and tokenized assets on Solana, with the broader goal of positioning the chain as the venue for trading real-world assets on-chain rather than purely crypto-native tokens.
Second-order DeFi effects of tokenized equities remain underexplored — using equities as collateral on money markets like Kamino or Jupiter Lend is identified as a near-term low-hanging fruit use case that could benefit lending protocols beyond just trading platforms.
Resources Mentioned
Team Topologies, 2nd Edition Organizing Business and Technology for Fast Flow of Value
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